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Christian Family Values – Really?

There is no end of rightwing christian commentator types banging the drum for good old Christian Family Values.

These are the spiritual realities:

1)    God does not make babies – YOU make babies when you have sex with someone. As far as I am aware God has got involved 3 times only; Adam, Eve and Jesus.

2)    God does not require you to have children, there is nothing Christian, or intrinsically good about popping out babies.

 3)    You beget children from your Natural Man, from your flesh, not from the New Man. Your children are born spiritually dead and unless God chose to speak life into them they will stay that way – there is no such thing as salvation by good parenting.

 4)    God will not save your kids just because he saved you. If you don’t believe this, have a chat with some of the older Christians you know who have kids that are in their 30s

 5)    Be real about this. If you have children who are clearly not regenerate, please do not;

 a)    Hit your kid over the head with the bible until they “get it”.

b)    Threaten them with hell.

c)    Play the pretend-my-kid-is-saved game.

Churches are full of children who have been *trained* by endless repetition how to act Christian, but it is exactly that – an act. It is IMPOSSIBLE to argue someone, train someone or threaten someone into the New Birth. You may end up with an Oscar winner but you will not end up with a Christian.

On top of this, many parents insist that everyone else in the church play a game of Lets Pretend, and so we end up baptising, fellowshipping and praying with clearly unregenerate people. Such things should not be. Your children are not more important than the body of Christ.

Jesus on Family Values:

Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

the Supremacy of Christ

After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.

Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”

This is a well known passage, it’s in Matthew, Mark and Luke.

Yes – Jesus is transfigured, there is a cloud and there is glory, pretty cool – and God affirms his son… but there is a bit more in this than most people catch at first reading.

Notice that Jesus appears with Moses and Elijah, this is not random. Moses gave the Law at Mount Sinai. Elijah was one of the most powerful prophets. These were seriously important people – and remember the disciples are not yet really sure who Jesus is.

There were other judges and there were other prophets, you could have had two prophets up there, or two judges, but you don’t. Moses and Elijah are preminent for each. Moses represents the Law, Elijah represents the prophets.

Now look what happens right before God speaks:

Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

Notice - there is a certain implied equality. Three shelters for three great men.

God immediately (and spectacularly) makes it clear.

This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!

Jesus is far superior to Moses and Elijah. Jesus is a far superior revelation of the person and will of God than the Law or the Prophets. Indeed he is the final and complete revelation of God.

the New Birth

I want to talk about the new birth - also called regeneration, the second birth, born again, made alive, the new man, the new nature, etc.

As you know, this is something very real and definite that happens to a person. It has nothing to do with doctrinal positions, and doesn’t happen because someone goes to the front of the church at the altar call or gets baptised or whatever (although it can be coincidental with these things)

We are all born natural men (or women) – made from the stuff of the earth, we are spiritually dead – this is what the bible means when it talks about “the natural man” or “the flesh”. In the new birth a person is made spiritually alive. God put a bit of himself in you, something totally different to anything in this universe.

This gift from God is the most valuable thing you have, it is more valuable than your career, house, car, wife or children. It is what makes you eligible to inherit the kingdom of God – to partake in the divine nature – you were made alive “in Christ”.

As you already know, it effected an immediate fundamental change in you. You started to see things totally differently, you began to intuitively understand the ways and priorities of God. And it will go on effecting that change IF you live according to that leading.

However, as you know, you still have the wants and desires of “the flesh”. In a sense you are pulled in two directions. On top of this you live in a society of “natural men”, whose priorities are according to their flesh.

Therefore you must resolutely pursue the priorities and leadings of the spirit – ignoring, suppressing, resisting the desires of the flesh and the priorities of the world. This is what the bible means when it talks about “death to self” and “coming out of the world”, but I will talk more about that another time.

You must live according to the new nature God has put in you. Do not go back. This is not a game.

Some Verses:

I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

For if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

Remember Lot’s wife.

cucumbers!

Now the rabble that was among them had a strong craving. And the people of Israel also wept again and said, “Oh that we had meat to eat! We remember the fish we ate in Egypt that cost nothing, the cucumbers, the melons, the leeks, the onions, and the garlic. But now our strength is dried up, and there is nothing at all but this manna to look at.”

The very same people God rescued from Egypt were ready to go back for cucumbers.

Amazing…

What will make you turn back from following Jesus?

a relationship,

your career,

social acceptability,

?

Reblogged from gillythegoodewitch
startingwisdom:

orly?because i do this :/ 

me too

startingwisdom:

orly?
because i do this :/ 

me too

(Source: gillythegoodewitch, via spreadthetruelight)

Reblogged from jennfromtheblog
Interesting quote - but what does it mean?

Here is a trustworthy saying: 



1 If we died with him,    we will also live with him;  (positive)2 if we endure,    we will also reign with him.   (positive)3 If we disown him,    he will also disown us;   (negative)4 if we are faithless,    he remains faithful,     for he cannot disown himself.   (also negative)

Is it saying that we remain in relationship with Christ if we break faith with him?
no.
notice how verses 1 & 2 of the poem compliment each other.
verses 3 & 4 similarly compliment each other.
Jesus remains faithful to who he is. 
If we depart from Christ, we depart from life.
don’t believe me? read the context. read vs 1 - 10. It is an exhortation to endure with Christ.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2&version=NIV

Interesting quote - but what does it mean?

Here is a trustworthy saying:

If we died with him,
    we will also live with him;  (positive)
if we endure,
    we will also reign with him.   (positive)
If we disown him,
    he will also disown us;   (negative)
if we are faithless,
    he remains faithful,
    for he cannot disown himself.   (also negative)

Is it saying that we remain in relationship with Christ if we break faith with him?

no.

notice how verses 1 & 2 of the poem compliment each other.

verses 3 & 4 similarly compliment each other.

Jesus remains faithful to who he is.

If we depart from Christ, we depart from life.

don’t believe me? read the context. read vs 1 - 10. It is an exhortation to endure with Christ.


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2&version=NIV

(Source: jennfromtheblog, via iisjunior-deactivated20130310)

Cain vs Abel

Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground.In the course of time Cain brought to the Lord an offering of the fruit of the ground,and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, but for Cain and his offering he had no regard.

What was the difference?

Abel brought a living sacrifice.

think about it.

Reblogged from christiannightmares
startingwisdom:

christiannightmares:

Christian cult in Miami who tattoo themselves with 666 say the world will end on June 30, 2012 (To read the story, click image or here; Found at The American Jesus)

What part of you can’t predict the rupture do people not understand?

you can never predict a rupture, or a rapture.
the world cannot end on the 30th of June because I am going on holiday in July.

startingwisdom:

christiannightmares:

Christian cult in Miami who tattoo themselves with 666 say the world will end on June 30, 2012 (To read the story, click image or here; Found at The American Jesus)

What part of you can’t predict the rupture do people not understand?

you can never predict a rupture, or a rapture.

the world cannot end on the 30th of June because I am going on holiday in July.

(via spreadthetruelight)